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Arguing, College, and Joe Biden: let's get it popping. Biden/Obama 2020 yeah yeah i know @WeCloutChase The 22nd amendment would allow Joe Biden to run as President and Barrack Obama as his VP. Just saying. Show this thread 600 urben911: libertarirynn: hst3000: libertarirynn: coolmanfromthepast: libertarirynn: hst3000: libertarirynn: The constitutionality of this would likely be questioned by the electoral college but it miiiight get through depending on how strictly they interpret the 22nd amendment, since Obama would not technically be being “elected” to the office of president, which is the explicit provisional language in the amendment (Not that somebody couldn’t theoretically hold the office more than twice, but that they could not be elected to it twice). All that said it would be a shitshow but mighty entertaining. 12th amendment, guys: No person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States. Obama is an unconstitutional selection. Not exactly: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/06/could-joe-biden-pick-barack-obama-as-his-running-mate-yes-but/?utm_term=.dc9a5700ef57 All the WaPo article means is that “It’s okay when Democrats violate the Constitution!” It literally does not say that at all and I question if you even read it. I have… opinions… on Dorf. Obama is ineligible for the office. Saying ‘well he’s only ineligible to be ELECTED’ is stupid shenanigans. Like saying you’re allowed to be in a house because while they said ‘don’t come in this door’ you came in through the WINDOW. You can’t back door a non citizen into the presidency this way, I see no reason why this would be different for term limitations. You can call it “stupid shenanigans” all you want but this is how the law works. Every phrase, comma, and word choice matters. If there is even a window there is a lawyer who will argue that point. I’m certainly not in support of this idea, I’m just saying you can’t hand wave a legal argument because you’re pretty sure it meant something that’s not explicitly stated. The fact is the amendment could have explicitly said “no former president can ever hold the office more than twice under any circumstances”, but it doesn’t say that, it says they cannot be elected. There is a difference. I’m pretty sure from the wording of the amendment it would be perfectly legal. If they ran as biden/Obama that would be legal because Obama isn’t being elected as president. If something happened to Biden where the vp would have to take over then you could have Obama in the white house legally. At least that’s what I get from the wording of the constitution. THANK YOU.It really isn’t that complicated.
Arguing, College, and Joe Biden: let's get it popping. Biden/Obama
 2020
 yeah yeah i know @WeCloutChase
 The 22nd amendment would allow Joe Biden
 to run as President and Barrack Obama as
 his VP.
 Just saying.
 Show this thread
 600
urben911:

libertarirynn:

hst3000:

libertarirynn:
coolmanfromthepast:

libertarirynn:

hst3000:

libertarirynn:

The constitutionality of this would likely be questioned by the electoral college but it miiiight get through depending on how strictly they interpret the 22nd amendment, since Obama would not technically be being “elected” to the office of president, which is the explicit provisional language in the amendment (Not that somebody couldn’t theoretically hold the office more than twice, but that they could not be elected to it twice).

All that said it would be a shitshow but mighty entertaining.

12th amendment, guys:

No person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall 
be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States. 
Obama is an unconstitutional selection. 

Not exactly: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/06/could-joe-biden-pick-barack-obama-as-his-running-mate-yes-but/?utm_term=.dc9a5700ef57

All the WaPo article means is that “It’s okay when Democrats violate the Constitution!”

It literally does not say that at all and I question if you even read it.

I have… opinions… on Dorf. Obama is ineligible for the office. Saying ‘well he’s only ineligible to be ELECTED’ is stupid shenanigans. Like saying you’re allowed to be in a house because while they said ‘don’t come in this door’ you came in through the WINDOW. You can’t back door a non citizen into the presidency this way, I see no reason why this would be different for term limitations.

You can call it “stupid shenanigans” all you want but this is how the law works. Every phrase, comma, and word choice matters. If there is even a window there is a lawyer who will argue that point. I’m certainly not in support of this idea, I’m just saying you can’t hand wave a legal argument because you’re pretty sure it meant something that’s not explicitly stated. The fact is the amendment could have explicitly said “no former president can ever hold the office more than twice under any circumstances”, but it doesn’t say that, it says they cannot be elected. There is a difference.

I’m pretty sure from the wording of the amendment it would be perfectly legal. If they ran as biden/Obama that would be legal because Obama isn’t being elected as president. If something happened to Biden where the vp would have to take over then you could have Obama in the white house legally. At least that’s what I get from the wording of the constitution.

THANK YOU.It really isn’t that complicated.

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Fbi, Memes, and Obama: Why is Peter Strzok so smug? He's in the SES. I would guess that 95% of Americans have never heard of the Senior Executive Service, but the SES has more REAL power than Congress. The SES was created in 1979 to form kind of an aristocracy among the federal bureaucracy All are political appointees. They resemble "civilian generals" but unlike generals they don't rotate out to new duty stations. Congress can haul FBI SESer Peter Strzok in and berate him, but they can't do a damn thing to him. Contempt of Congress? An SESer could not care any less. The approximately 10,000 SESers protect one another above all else. It's not about Democrats vs. Republicans, it's now more about the SES vs. the rest of the govemment Folks need to get up to speed on the REAL power structure in Washington There is a civil war going on, and 95% of it is happening below the surface. Trump and the Congress have barely made a dent in the power of the SES Imagine the old USSR, with KGB-aligned senior apparatchiks answerable directly to the Politburo and nobody else in charge of every federal agency and department. That is the SES, In our case today, the unexpected occurred and Trump was elected as POTUS, but the SES is still loyal to the Obama and The Washington D. C. Deep State is a group of 8,156 appointed managers in 75 federal agencies that control the executive bureaucracy and tell new political appointees what they can and cannot do. Yes, that’s right, the Deep State is an official government program, well-organized, comprehensive, and “in charge.” OUT OF THE 8,156 MEMBERS WHO MAKE UP THIS DEEP STATE OF ENSCONCED BUREAUCRATS, OVER 7,000 WERE APPOINTED BY OBAMA. These the are the “Obama Holdouts” that still control the executive branch of government a full year after Trump has come to office. Obama expanded the existing Flag_of_the_United_States_Senior_Executive_Service.svgprogram of Deep State managers and appointed over 7,000 of the 8,156 bosses who are called the Senior Executive Service. Some call it the “Shadow Government”, and it is true that this federal cabal works in the shadows. Have you ever heard of such a group? Some call it Obama’s Army. Let’s review what we know about the power of “political appointees” who hold important leadership and policymaking positions. There are four basic types of appointments: Presidential Appointments with Senate Confirmation: There are 1,212 senior leaders, including the Cabinet secretaries and their deputies, the heads of most independent agencies and ambassadors, who must be confirmed by the Senate. Presidential Appointments without Senate Confirmation: There are 353 positions which make up much of the White House staff, although they are also scattered throughout many of the smaller federal agencies. Non-career Senior Executive Service: Members of the Senior Executive Service (SES) work in key positions just below the top presidential appointees, bridging the gap between the political leaders and the civil service throughout the federal government. Schedule C Appointments: There are 1,403 Schedule C appointees who serve in a confidential or policy role. They range from schedulers and confidential assistants to policy experts. . The Senior Executive Service (SES) in 2016 had 8,156 members who were appointees. Obama appointed over 7,000 of them to these key positions. Most of these appointees do not arise from inside the respective agencies through
Fbi, Memes, and Obama: Why is Peter Strzok so smug? He's in the SES.
 I would guess that 95% of Americans have never heard of the Senior Executive
 Service, but the SES has more REAL power than Congress. The SES was
 created in 1979 to form kind of an aristocracy among the federal bureaucracy
 All are political appointees. They resemble "civilian generals" but unlike
 generals they don't rotate out to new duty stations.
 Congress can haul FBI SESer Peter Strzok in and berate him, but they can't do
 a damn thing to him. Contempt of Congress? An SESer could not care any
 less. The approximately 10,000 SESers protect one another above all else. It's
 not about Democrats vs. Republicans, it's now more about the SES vs. the rest
 of the govemment
 Folks need to get up to speed on the REAL power structure in Washington
 There is a civil war going on, and 95% of it is happening below the surface.
 Trump and the Congress have barely made a dent in the power of the SES
 Imagine the old USSR, with KGB-aligned senior apparatchiks answerable
 directly to the Politburo and nobody else in charge of every federal agency and
 department. That is the SES, In our case today, the unexpected occurred and
 Trump was elected as POTUS, but the SES is still loyal to the Obama and
The Washington D. C. Deep State is a group of 8,156 appointed managers in 75 federal agencies that control the executive bureaucracy and tell new political appointees what they can and cannot do. Yes, that’s right, the Deep State is an official government program, well-organized, comprehensive, and “in charge.” OUT OF THE 8,156 MEMBERS WHO MAKE UP THIS DEEP STATE OF ENSCONCED BUREAUCRATS, OVER 7,000 WERE APPOINTED BY OBAMA. These the are the “Obama Holdouts” that still control the executive branch of government a full year after Trump has come to office. Obama expanded the existing Flag_of_the_United_States_Senior_Executive_Service.svgprogram of Deep State managers and appointed over 7,000 of the 8,156 bosses who are called the Senior Executive Service. Some call it the “Shadow Government”, and it is true that this federal cabal works in the shadows. Have you ever heard of such a group? Some call it Obama’s Army. Let’s review what we know about the power of “political appointees” who hold important leadership and policymaking positions. There are four basic types of appointments: Presidential Appointments with Senate Confirmation: There are 1,212 senior leaders, including the Cabinet secretaries and their deputies, the heads of most independent agencies and ambassadors, who must be confirmed by the Senate. Presidential Appointments without Senate Confirmation: There are 353 positions which make up much of the White House staff, although they are also scattered throughout many of the smaller federal agencies. Non-career Senior Executive Service: Members of the Senior Executive Service (SES) work in key positions just below the top presidential appointees, bridging the gap between the political leaders and the civil service throughout the federal government. Schedule C Appointments: There are 1,403 Schedule C appointees who serve in a confidential or policy role. They range from schedulers and confidential assistants to policy experts. . The Senior Executive Service (SES) in 2016 had 8,156 members who were appointees. Obama appointed over 7,000 of them to these key positions. Most of these appointees do not arise from inside the respective agencies through

The Washington D. C. Deep State is a group of 8,156 appointed managers in 75 federal agencies that control the executive bureaucracy and tel...

Basketball, Children, and Church: TRUMP CHOOSES JUDGE BRETT KAVANAUGH FOR THE SUPREME COURT On Monday, President Trump announced that he chose Judge Brett Kavanaugh for the United States Supreme Court. Kavanaugh is from Bethesda, Maryland, and is well known in conservative legal circles. “He is a committed textualist and originalist, one whose time on the bench has revealed a unique ability to apply these principles to legal facts. He deeply believes in the constitutional separation of powers as a means for ensuring governmental accountability and protecting individual liberty. From the start of his career, he’s applied the Constitution faithfully, even when that made him a lonely voice. He has done so with particular tenacity on the issue that matters most to the president: taking power away from unelected bureaucrats and returning it to elected officials.” J.D. Vance in the Wall Street Journal as reported by Politico As a member of the DC court of appeals for 12 years, Kavanaugh dissented from the majority in the case of the illegal immigrant who wanted an abortion. He stated that allowing her to have such a procedure was “a new right for unlawful immigrant minors in U.S. Government detention to obtain immediate abortion on demand.” By the time the Supreme Court got the case and denied her request, she already had the abortion. As a judge who holds tightly to the Constitution, Kavanaugh told the White House audience that a judge should “interpret the law, not make the law.” Brett Kavanaugh is active in the Catholic church, serving meals and tutoring students. He graduated from Yale and Yale law school, and has taught at Harvard and other schools. He tutors children, and coaches girls basketball. His wife Ashley is a former secretary to George W Bush. One criticism of Kavanaugh came from him granting an atheist standing in a court case against the Pledge of Allegiance, according to The Daily Wire. Critics also say that it was Kavanaugh whose decision to call Obamacare a “tax” that allowed Justice Roberts to uphold the disastrous healthcare program. https:-news.unclesamsmisguidedchildren.com-trump-chooses-judge-brett-kavanaugh-for-the-supreme-court- Scotus MAGA
Basketball, Children, and Church: TRUMP CHOOSES
 JUDGE BRETT
 KAVANAUGH FOR THE
 SUPREME COURT
On Monday, President Trump announced that he chose Judge Brett Kavanaugh for the United States Supreme Court. Kavanaugh is from Bethesda, Maryland, and is well known in conservative legal circles. “He is a committed textualist and originalist, one whose time on the bench has revealed a unique ability to apply these principles to legal facts. He deeply believes in the constitutional separation of powers as a means for ensuring governmental accountability and protecting individual liberty. From the start of his career, he’s applied the Constitution faithfully, even when that made him a lonely voice. He has done so with particular tenacity on the issue that matters most to the president: taking power away from unelected bureaucrats and returning it to elected officials.” J.D. Vance in the Wall Street Journal as reported by Politico As a member of the DC court of appeals for 12 years, Kavanaugh dissented from the majority in the case of the illegal immigrant who wanted an abortion. He stated that allowing her to have such a procedure was “a new right for unlawful immigrant minors in U.S. Government detention to obtain immediate abortion on demand.” By the time the Supreme Court got the case and denied her request, she already had the abortion. As a judge who holds tightly to the Constitution, Kavanaugh told the White House audience that a judge should “interpret the law, not make the law.” Brett Kavanaugh is active in the Catholic church, serving meals and tutoring students. He graduated from Yale and Yale law school, and has taught at Harvard and other schools. He tutors children, and coaches girls basketball. His wife Ashley is a former secretary to George W Bush. One criticism of Kavanaugh came from him granting an atheist standing in a court case against the Pledge of Allegiance, according to The Daily Wire. Critics also say that it was Kavanaugh whose decision to call Obamacare a “tax” that allowed Justice Roberts to uphold the disastrous healthcare program. https:-news.unclesamsmisguidedchildren.com-trump-chooses-judge-brett-kavanaugh-for-the-supreme-court- Scotus MAGA

On Monday, President Trump announced that he chose Judge Brett Kavanaugh for the United States Supreme Court. Kavanaugh is from Bethesda, Ma...

Destiny, Donald Trump, and Fall: SPACE FORCE President Trump directs Defense Department to 'immediately begin the process' of establishing 'space force' as sixth military branch President Donald Trump declared Monday he will move to make a new branch of the military focused solely on space. “I am hereby directing the Department of Defense and Pentagon to immediately begin the process necessary to establish a space force as the sixth branch of the armed forces,” Trump said during a meeting of the National Space Council. “Our destiny beyond the Earth is not only a matter of national identity but a matter of national security,” Trump said. He floated the idea for the force as a part of his national security strategy on March 13, saying “space is a war-fighting domain, just like the land, air, and sea.” The president described then how he had originally coined the term as a joke, while discussing U.S. government spending and private investment in space. “We have the Air Force, we’ll have the space force,” Trump said in March. As it turns out, the space force sounds a lot like the space corps legislation the Trump administration opposed last year. In the National Defense Authorization Act, the House Armed Services Committee proposed last June the establishment of a space corps, a new branch of the military that would fall under the command of the Air Force. This branch’s relationship to the Air Force would be similar to the Marine Corps’ ties to the Navy. The space corps would have an area of responsibility that encompasses the vast expanse outside of the Earth’s atmosphere. At the time, the White House, the Air Force as well as Secretary of Defense James Mattis disapproved of creating a sixth branch of the military. “I oppose the creation of a new military service and additional organizational layers at a time when we are focused on reducing overhead and integrating joint warfighting efforts,” Mattis wrote in a letter to the House and Senate armed services committees. While the legislation passed the House, the space corps bid did not make it into the final defense authorization bill in November. The addition of a service branch would be the first in 71 years. The Air Force is the nation’s youngest branch and was added shortly after World War II.
Destiny, Donald Trump, and Fall: SPACE FORCE
 President Trump directs Defense Department to 'immediately
 begin the process' of establishing 'space force' as sixth
 military branch
President Donald Trump declared Monday he will move to make a new branch of the military focused solely on space. “I am hereby directing the Department of Defense and Pentagon to immediately begin the process necessary to establish a space force as the sixth branch of the armed forces,” Trump said during a meeting of the National Space Council. “Our destiny beyond the Earth is not only a matter of national identity but a matter of national security,” Trump said. He floated the idea for the force as a part of his national security strategy on March 13, saying “space is a war-fighting domain, just like the land, air, and sea.” The president described then how he had originally coined the term as a joke, while discussing U.S. government spending and private investment in space. “We have the Air Force, we’ll have the space force,” Trump said in March. As it turns out, the space force sounds a lot like the space corps legislation the Trump administration opposed last year. In the National Defense Authorization Act, the House Armed Services Committee proposed last June the establishment of a space corps, a new branch of the military that would fall under the command of the Air Force. This branch’s relationship to the Air Force would be similar to the Marine Corps’ ties to the Navy. The space corps would have an area of responsibility that encompasses the vast expanse outside of the Earth’s atmosphere. At the time, the White House, the Air Force as well as Secretary of Defense James Mattis disapproved of creating a sixth branch of the military. “I oppose the creation of a new military service and additional organizational layers at a time when we are focused on reducing overhead and integrating joint warfighting efforts,” Mattis wrote in a letter to the House and Senate armed services committees. While the legislation passed the House, the space corps bid did not make it into the final defense authorization bill in November. The addition of a service branch would be the first in 71 years. The Air Force is the nation’s youngest branch and was added shortly after World War II.

President Donald Trump declared Monday he will move to make a new branch of the military focused solely on space. “I am hereby directing the...

Future, Kim Jong-Un, and Memes: HISTORICAL SUMMIT President Trump met with Kim Jong-Un Monday night, the first meeting between a sitting American President and a North Korean leader President Trump met with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un for a historical meeting Monday night (Tuesday morning local time) in Singapore. This is the first time a sitting American president met with a North Korean leader. Mr. Trump said he will be suspending joint military exercises with South Korean forces and is confident Mr. Kim will continue with denuclearization “very quickly.” __ The meeting took place at a hotel on the island of Sentosa, and after Mr. Trump and Mr. Kim shook hands, they headed inside for a solo meeting. The initial one-on-one meeting between the two leaders, which lasted around 40 minutes, was mostly private aside from a pair of interpreters. After the private meeting, Mr. Kim and President Trump preceeded to a working lunch with more officials, when Mr. Trump told reporters two had formed an “excellent relationship.” __ In a televised portion of the summit, the two leaders signed a joint statement, where Mr. Trump “committed to provide security guarantees” to North Korea, and Mr. Kim “reaffirmed his firm and unwavering commitment to complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.” __ After their meeting, Mr. Kim told reporters: - “It was not easy to get here. The past worked as fetters on our limbs, and the old prejudices and practices worked as obstacles on our way forward. But we overcame all of them, and we are here today.” __ Trump told reporters he would “absolutely” invite Mr. Kim to the White House in the future.
Future, Kim Jong-Un, and Memes: HISTORICAL SUMMIT
 President Trump met with Kim Jong-Un Monday night, the first
 meeting between a sitting American President and a
 North Korean leader
President Trump met with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un for a historical meeting Monday night (Tuesday morning local time) in Singapore. This is the first time a sitting American president met with a North Korean leader. Mr. Trump said he will be suspending joint military exercises with South Korean forces and is confident Mr. Kim will continue with denuclearization “very quickly.” __ The meeting took place at a hotel on the island of Sentosa, and after Mr. Trump and Mr. Kim shook hands, they headed inside for a solo meeting. The initial one-on-one meeting between the two leaders, which lasted around 40 minutes, was mostly private aside from a pair of interpreters. After the private meeting, Mr. Kim and President Trump preceeded to a working lunch with more officials, when Mr. Trump told reporters two had formed an “excellent relationship.” __ In a televised portion of the summit, the two leaders signed a joint statement, where Mr. Trump “committed to provide security guarantees” to North Korea, and Mr. Kim “reaffirmed his firm and unwavering commitment to complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.” __ After their meeting, Mr. Kim told reporters: - “It was not easy to get here. The past worked as fetters on our limbs, and the old prejudices and practices worked as obstacles on our way forward. But we overcame all of them, and we are here today.” __ Trump told reporters he would “absolutely” invite Mr. Kim to the White House in the future.

President Trump met with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un for a historical meeting Monday night (Tuesday morning local time) in Singapore. Th...