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Bad, Children, and Chill: * Watch Dra Cuddy:Mother Gothel by Aveku-chan-Kataang Customization /Wallpaper/ People / Females @2011-2016 Aveku-chan-Kataang YES! C'MON! 8DDD galotheshroom: ava-burton-writing: dragonenby: writingwithcolor: so-many-miles-to-go: aworldinneedofmagic: the-independent-jew: so-many-miles-to-go: smol-mother-rose: so-many-miles-to-go: Yeah, there’s a reason for that. It’s called: antisemitic caricature. I don’t understand what’s Jewish about mother gothel… she has a typical Disney face doesn’t she? Is it the curly hair..? I mean her nose and everything else seem normal? I’m sorry, I’m just trying to figure it out, you don’t have to answer if you don’t want to. dark curly hair - long hooked nose - darker complexion than the blond blue eyed heroine 9and really the rest of the cast - portrayed as greedy and evil. Lisa Edelstein is Jewish.  As are Idina Menzel and Amy Winehouse, both of whom I have seen compared in looks to Gothel.  Gothel’s design is a pretty clear caricature of ethnically Jewish women.   This is a pretty good contrast between Rapunzel and Gothel.  Rapunzel has the “typical Disney face”: Here’s a more close up look at her features. The hooked nose becomes even more pronounced as she becomes “eviler.” If you wanted to claim that there was noting out of the ordinary for Disney animation when it came to Gothel’s features, you would have to find at least one Disney princess or heroine with similar characteristics (long hooked nose and dark curly hair, etc). But here is what we have is - small noses that turn up at the end: wide, flatter noses (though cheers to Disney for not putting button noses on their characters of color, although Esmerelda’s clothing design deserves another essay on Rromani stereotypes and there are some major issues with Pocahontas as well) And then a few misc noses (again, props for Jasmine’s nose not being a button): Apart from just the design of Gothel, there’s also the whole: “obviously ‘other’ (read Jewish) woman kidnaps the pretty blonde (read: gentile) kid to use her for ritualistic/magical purposes” Like that right there on top of the aesthetic Jewish-coding is what pushed the antisemitic caricature over the top for me.  It harkens back to antisemitic blood libel that claimed that Jews stole gentile children for all manner of nefarious reasons. Even when Gothel is in “mother” role to Rapunzel, she’s is shown as nagging and passive aggressive, both antisemitic stereotypes of Jewish women. There is no one thing that makes her an antisemitic caricature, but the design, plus the storyline she plays out, plus her characterization cement the overall character as antisemitic.   Jew-coding a villain is not in itself always antisemitic when there are also Jewish coded heroes. Rapunzel does not have that. Having a villain steal a baby for magical/ritualistic reasons is not always antisemitic as long as the villain is not Jew-coded.  Rapunzel fails this as well. Having a nagging and passive aggressive mother character is not antisemitic provided that she is not, again, coded as Jewish.  Rapunzel fails once again. Hope this helps. EDIT: @ariminak pointed out that some of my wording made it sound like Gothel’s features only stereotypically caricatured Ashkenazi women when in fact that is not the case.  I changed the language to remove that phrasing and make it clear that any ethnically Jewish women can be affected by this type of aesthetic trope. If you reblogged the old version, could you please delete it and reblog this one instead. Spread this version so people recognize that this stuff harms all Jewish women. omfg can y’all chill the fuck out, any race can be portrayed as hero or villain, it’s a fucking kids movie not a political statement So I’m guessing you’re white and a gentile. As such, you’ve more than likely grown up looking at tv and movies and fairytales and seeing your face in those of the heroes. Jewish people don’t get that.  When we are portrayed in live action, our characters are more often than not whitewashed and in other media, our features are used and caricaturized to create “evil looking” villains. You don’t see it because you’ve been ingrained with the idea that “ethnic” features are just “how you make a character look evil.”  You don’t look at Gothel and see your mother.  You don’t see yourself and your people.  You don’t see decades of propaganda aimed at fostering hate against you and ultimately seeking to destroy you.   But seeing how you also seem to think that saying you’re not attracted to an entire race of people ISN’T racist, you really don’t get any say on any of this. So really, you need to chill the fuck out and stop telling marginalized people to stop talking about the tools of our own marginalization. Let’s play a game I like to call: Movie Villain or Antisemitic Propaganda: Many “evil witch” tropes were built on European antisemitic stereotypes, not just in appearance but in the storylines they play out as well. Greediness, stealing children, killing children, hunger for power, etc.  Every time a movie villain design uses stereotyped Jewish features to communicate “evilness” to an audience, they perpetuate the marginalization of the people they are using.  One big issue I have is that Gothel’s didn’t start out as the antisemitic caricature that made it to screen.  Much of the early concept art has a more dark romanticism feel.   They changed the original design. Presumably to make Gothel more “other” from the good characters in the movie.  At some point, a decision was made that dark curly hair and a hooked nose wound better convey their villain. It really doesn’t matter if any of this was intentional, I’d actually bet that it wasn’t.  However, antisemitic tropes are so engrained in our societies that people like you, even when confronted with a step by step break down of what it is, feel comfortable thinking that there’s nothing wrong with it and mocking those calling it out as if we are overreacting. You seem to have completely ignored the majority of my post.  It is the character design, plus the characterization, plus the story line that mirrors blood libel that makes Gothel an antisemitic character.  It’s not just about someone of a certain race or ethnicity being a villain.  It’s about how stereotypes of a certain ethnic group are understood as “villainous” due to villains being repeatedly coded as Jewish over decades of film and tv. And contrary to your naive belief, all media is political to some extent. Every time a historically present minority is not included in film (ex: lily-white Harlem in Fantastical Beasts) or when a minority character is whitewashed, or when the “ethnic” features of a minority are used almost universally to portray bad guys, it is a political and social issue.  When you never see yourselves as the people who play the hero or even see your people existing in a portrayal of a place where they should be, it is not benign. Reblogging again for these additions. I’m not Jewish, but I can imagine seeing yourself villanized again and again must wear on you so hard (like queer coded villains do on me). The stereotypes are so insidious, I didn’t even realize she was Jewish coded until I saw this post for the first time, and since then I’ve been able to pick up on more anti-semitic media. Stay cognizant! This is a writing blog so fellow writers! Please take a good look at your villains— even if they’re not Jewish, it can be antisemitic. Thanks. - A Jew™️ I feel like you guys want to be offended. its called shape theory and character design. I haven’t met a single Jew that has a hooked nose and jews are not the only the only ethnicity with lightish brown skin and curly black hair. for example, ME I’m Mexican and have those features I have met a woman for MADRID who looks EXACTLY like the woman above. and her accent sounds a lot more Spanish than Jewish (which would make sense because Rapunzel takes place in Germany and Spain is pretty damn close by. Also she just straight up does not have a hooked nose. Not anything like those caricatures anyway. In the shot where she’s in profile it doesn’t look hooked at all.
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Yeah, there’s a reason for that.
It’s called: antisemitic caricature.


I don’t understand what’s Jewish about mother gothel… she has a typical Disney face doesn’t she? Is it the curly hair..? I mean her nose and everything else seem normal? 
I’m sorry, I’m just trying to figure it out, you don’t have to answer if you don’t want to.

dark curly hair - long hooked nose - darker complexion than the blond blue eyed heroine 9and really the rest of the cast - portrayed as greedy and evil.
Lisa Edelstein is Jewish.  As are Idina Menzel and Amy Winehouse, both of whom I have seen compared in looks to Gothel.  Gothel’s design is a pretty clear caricature of ethnically Jewish women.  
This is a pretty good contrast between Rapunzel and Gothel.  Rapunzel has the “typical Disney face”:
Here’s a more close up look at her features.
The hooked nose becomes even more pronounced as she becomes “eviler.”
If you wanted to claim that there was noting out of the ordinary for Disney animation when it came to Gothel’s features, you would have to find at least one Disney princess or heroine with similar characteristics (long hooked nose and dark curly hair, etc).
But here is what we have is -
small noses that turn up at the end:
wide, flatter noses (though cheers to Disney for not putting button noses on their characters of color, although Esmerelda’s clothing design deserves another essay on Rromani stereotypes and there are some major issues with Pocahontas as well)
And then a few misc noses (again, props for Jasmine’s nose not being a button):
Apart from just the design of Gothel, there’s also the whole: “obviously ‘other’ (read Jewish) woman kidnaps the pretty blonde (read: gentile) kid to use her for ritualistic/magical purposes”
Like that right there on top of the aesthetic Jewish-coding is what pushed the antisemitic caricature over the top for me.  It harkens back to antisemitic blood libel that claimed that Jews stole gentile children for all manner of nefarious reasons. Even when Gothel is in “mother” role to Rapunzel, she’s is shown as nagging and passive aggressive, both antisemitic stereotypes of Jewish women.
There is no one thing that makes her an antisemitic caricature, but the design, plus the storyline she plays out, plus her characterization cement the overall character as antisemitic.  
Jew-coding a villain is not in itself always antisemitic when there are also Jewish coded heroes. Rapunzel does not have that.
Having a villain steal a baby for magical/ritualistic reasons is not always antisemitic as long as the villain is not Jew-coded.  Rapunzel fails this as well.
Having a nagging and passive aggressive mother character is not antisemitic provided that she is not, again, coded as Jewish.  Rapunzel fails once again.
Hope this helps.
EDIT: @ariminak pointed out that some of my wording made it sound like Gothel’s features only stereotypically caricatured Ashkenazi women when in fact that is not the case.  I changed the language to remove that phrasing and make it clear that any ethnically Jewish women can be affected by this type of aesthetic trope. If you reblogged the old version, could you please delete it and reblog this one instead.

Spread this version so people recognize that this stuff harms all Jewish women. 

omfg can y’all chill the fuck out, any race can be portrayed as hero or villain, it’s a fucking kids movie not a political statement

So I’m guessing you’re white and a gentile. As such, you’ve more than likely grown up looking at tv and movies and fairytales and seeing your face in those of the heroes.
Jewish people don’t get that.  When we are portrayed in live action, our characters are more often than not whitewashed and in other media, our features are used and caricaturized to create “evil looking” villains.
You don’t see it because you’ve been ingrained with the idea that “ethnic” features are just “how you make a character look evil.”  You don’t look at Gothel and see your mother.  You don’t see yourself and your people.  You don’t see decades of propaganda aimed at fostering hate against you and ultimately seeking to destroy you.  
But seeing how you also seem to think that saying you’re not attracted to an entire race of people ISN’T racist, you really don’t get any say on any of this.
So really, you need to chill the fuck out and stop telling marginalized people to stop talking about the tools of our own marginalization.
Let’s play a game I like to call: Movie Villain or Antisemitic Propaganda:
Many “evil witch” tropes were built on European antisemitic stereotypes, not just in appearance but in the storylines they play out as well. Greediness, stealing children, killing children, hunger for power, etc.  Every time a movie villain design uses stereotyped Jewish features to communicate “evilness” to an audience, they perpetuate the marginalization of the people they are using. 
One big issue I have is that Gothel’s didn’t start out as the antisemitic caricature that made it to screen.  Much of the early concept art has a more dark romanticism feel.  
They changed the original design. Presumably to make Gothel more “other” from the good characters in the movie.  At some point, a decision was made that dark curly hair and a hooked nose wound better convey their villain.
It really doesn’t matter if any of this was intentional, I’d actually bet that it wasn’t.  However, antisemitic tropes are so engrained in our societies that people like you, even when confronted with a step by step break down of what it is, feel comfortable thinking that there’s nothing wrong with it and mocking those calling it out as if we are overreacting.
You seem to have completely ignored the majority of my post.  It is the character design, plus the characterization, plus the story line that mirrors blood libel that makes Gothel an antisemitic character.  It’s not just about someone of a certain race or ethnicity being a villain.  It’s about how stereotypes of a certain ethnic group are understood as “villainous” due to villains being repeatedly coded as Jewish over decades of film and tv.
And contrary to your naive belief, all media is political to some extent. Every time a historically present minority is not included in film (ex: lily-white Harlem in Fantastical Beasts) or when a minority character is whitewashed, or when the “ethnic” features of a minority are used almost universally to portray bad guys, it is a political and social issue.  When you never see yourselves as the people who play the hero or even see your people existing in a portrayal of a place where they should be, it is not benign.

Reblogging again for these additions.


I’m not Jewish, but I can imagine seeing yourself villanized again and again must wear on you so hard (like queer coded villains do on me). The stereotypes are so insidious, I didn’t even realize she was Jewish coded until I saw this post for the first time, and since then I’ve been able to pick up on more anti-semitic media.
Stay cognizant!  

This is a writing blog so fellow writers! Please take a good look at your villains— even if they’re not Jewish, it can be antisemitic. Thanks. - A Jew™️

I feel like you guys want to be offended. its called shape theory and character design. I haven’t met a single Jew that has a hooked nose and jews are not the only the only ethnicity with lightish brown skin and curly black hair. for example, ME I’m Mexican and have those features I have met a woman for MADRID who looks EXACTLY like the woman above. and her accent sounds a lot more Spanish than Jewish (which would make sense because Rapunzel takes place in Germany and Spain is pretty damn close by.


Also she just straight up does not have a hooked nose. Not anything like those caricatures anyway. In the shot where she’s in profile it doesn’t look hooked at all.

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A Dream, Africa, and Bailey Jay: A Malawian teenager named William Kamkwamba taught himself how to build a windmill out of junk and bring power to his village. He then went on to build a second, larger windmill to power irrigation pumps. He did this all from books he read in the library. Ultrafacts.tumblr.com WHOHAE WIND THE BOY OHARNESS nBryan Mealer Ekeabeth Zunon A ouwd sothond below nd ghzed at thi stranje machinc ultrafacts: William had a dream of bringing electricity and running water to his village. And he was not prepared to wait for politicians or aid groups to do it for him. The need for action was even greater in 2002 following one of Malawi’s worst droughts, which killed thousands of people and left his family on the brink of starvation. Unable to attend school, he kept up his education by using a local library. Fascinated by science, his life changed one day when he picked up a tattered textbook and saw a picture of a windmill. Mr Kamkwamba told the BBC News website: “I was very interested when I saw the windmill could make electricity and pump water. “I thought: ‘That could be a defense against hunger. Maybe I should build one for myself’.” When not helping his family farm maize, he plugged away at his prototype, working by the light of a paraffin lamp in the evenings. But his ingenious project met blank looks in his community of about 200 people. “Many, including my mother, thought I was going crazy,” he recalls. “They had never seen a windmill before.” [x] In 2014, William Kamkwamba received his 4 year degree at Dartmouth College in Hanover, New Hampshire where he was a student. (Fact Source) For more facts, follow Ultrafacts
A Dream, Africa, and Bailey Jay: A Malawian teenager named William
 Kamkwamba taught himself how to build a
 windmill out of junk and bring power to his
 village. He then went on to build a second,
 larger windmill to power irrigation pumps. He
 did this all from books he read in the library.
 Ultrafacts.tumblr.com

 WHOHAE WIND
 THE BOY
 OHARNESS
 nBryan Mealer
 Ekeabeth Zunon
 A ouwd sothond below nd ghzed at thi stranje machinc
ultrafacts:

William had a dream of bringing electricity and running water to his village. And he was not prepared to wait for politicians or aid groups to do it for him. The need for action was even greater in 2002 following one of Malawi’s worst droughts, which killed thousands of people and left his family on the brink of starvation.
Unable to attend school, he kept up his education by using a local library. Fascinated by science, his life changed one day when he picked up a tattered textbook and saw a picture of a windmill. Mr Kamkwamba told the BBC News website: “I was very interested when I saw the windmill could make electricity and pump water.
“I thought: ‘That could be a defense against hunger. Maybe I should build one for myself’.” When not helping his family farm maize, he plugged away at his prototype, working by the light of a paraffin lamp in the evenings. But his ingenious project met blank looks in his community of about 200 people.
“Many, including my mother, thought I was going crazy,” he recalls. “They had never seen a windmill before.” [x]
In 2014, William Kamkwamba received his 4 year degree at Dartmouth College in Hanover, New Hampshire where he was a student.
(Fact Source) For more facts, follow Ultrafacts

ultrafacts: William had a dream of bringing electricity and running water to his village. And he was not prepared to wait for politicians o...

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C'MON! 8DDD <p><a href="http://siryouarebeingmocked.tumblr.com/post/176459494915/hst3000-rainbowloliofjustice" class="tumblr_blog">siryouarebeingmocked</a>:</p> <blockquote><p><a href="https://hst3000.tumblr.com/post/176070852987/rainbowloliofjustice-thedoctorofall" class="tumblr_blog">hst3000</a>:</p><blockquote> <p><a href="http://rainbowloliofjustice.tumblr.com/post/176051226472/thedoctorofall-ava-burton-writing" class="tumblr_blog">rainbowloliofjustice</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="https://thedoctorofall.tumblr.com/post/176049574122/ava-burton-writing-dragonenby" class="tumblr_blog">thedoctorofall</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="https://ava-burton-writing.tumblr.com/post/175913515322/dragonenby-writingwithcolor" class="tumblr_blog">ava-burton-writing</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="https://dragonenby.tumblr.com/post/175899318762/writingwithcolor-so-many-miles-to-go" class="tumblr_blog">dragonenby</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://writingwithcolor.tumblr.com/post/154992689002/so-many-miles-to-go-aworldinneedofmagic" class="tumblr_blog">writingwithcolor</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://so-many-miles-to-go.tumblr.com/post/154736881768/aworldinneedofmagic-the-independent-jew" class="tumblr_blog">so-many-miles-to-go</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://aworldinneedofmagic.tumblr.com/post/154715496153/the-independent-jew-so-many-miles-to-go" class="tumblr_blog">aworldinneedofmagic</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://the-independent-jew.tumblr.com/post/154343314825/smol-mother-rose-so-many-miles-to-go-yeah" class="tumblr_blog">the-independent-jew</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://so-many-miles-to-go.tumblr.com/post/154339137228/smol-mother-rose-so-many-miles-to-go-yeah" class="tumblr_blog">so-many-miles-to-go</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="https://smol-mother-rose.tumblr.com/post/154322589416/so-many-miles-to-go-yeah-theres-a-reason-for" class="tumblr_blog">smol-mother-rose</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://so-many-miles-to-go.tumblr.com/post/154319305938/yeah-theres-a-reason-for-that-its-called" class="tumblr_blog">so-many-miles-to-go</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p>Yeah, there’s a reason for that.</p> <p>It’s called: <b>antisemitic caricature.</b></p> </blockquote> <p>I don’t understand what’s Jewish about mother gothel… she has a typical Disney face doesn’t she? Is it the curly hair..? I mean her nose and everything else seem normal? </p> <p>I’m sorry, I’m just trying to figure it out, you don’t have to answer if you don’t want to.</p> </blockquote> <p>dark curly hair - long hooked nose - darker complexion than the blond blue eyed heroine 9and really the rest of the cast - portrayed as greedy and evil.</p> <p>Lisa Edelstein is Jewish.  As are Idina Menzel and Amy Winehouse, both of whom I have seen compared in looks to Gothel.  Gothel’s design is a pretty clear caricature of ethnically Jewish women.  </p> <hr><p>This is a pretty good contrast between Rapunzel and Gothel.  <b><i>Rapunzel</i></b> has the “typical Disney face”:</p> <figure data-orig-width="1876" data-orig-height="1080" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/c6a02d31e5325ce3897ea40bca1db98c/tumblr_inline_oi1alyTZwN1u3hfbm_540.jpg" alt="image" data-orig-width="1876" data-orig-height="1080"/></figure><p>Here’s a more close up look at her features.</p> <figure data-orig-width="736" data-orig-height="414" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/81263a61b9b531b9a037bb3c2474d87d/tumblr_inline_oi1amcSI571u3hfbm_540.jpg" alt="image" data-orig-width="736" data-orig-height="414"/></figure><p>The hooked nose becomes even more pronounced as she becomes “eviler.”</p> <figure data-orig-width="640" data-orig-height="531" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/2cab6154654958a036ca5787f037fb2a/tumblr_inline_oi1ampHH5I1u3hfbm_540.jpg" alt="image" data-orig-width="640" data-orig-height="531"/></figure><hr><p>If you wanted to claim that there was noting out of the ordinary for Disney animation when it came to Gothel’s features, you would have to find at least one Disney princess or heroine with similar characteristics (long hooked nose and dark curly hair, etc).</p> <p>But here is what we have is -</p> <p><b>small noses that turn up at the end:</b></p> <figure data-orig-width="626" data-orig-height="313" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/795ee2dbccf93c8be84f2e494375d885/tumblr_inline_oi1an5YIKL1u3hfbm_540.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="626" data-orig-height="313"/></figure><p><b>wide, flatter noses</b> (though cheers to Disney for not putting button noses on their characters of color, although Esmerelda’s clothing design deserves another essay on Rromani stereotypes and there are some major issues with Pocahontas as well)</p> <figure data-orig-width="621" data-orig-height="310" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/cf1bb1115b150fc66fe3a135c2b1f7ae/tumblr_inline_oi1anhfdcO1u3hfbm_540.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="621" data-orig-height="310"/></figure><p>And then a few <b>misc noses</b> (again, props for Jasmine’s nose not being a button):</p> <figure data-orig-width="466" data-orig-height="155" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/4c972fc2df9f1f9fd3025d72babafcef/tumblr_inline_oi1anq7O7d1u3hfbm_540.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="466" data-orig-height="155"/></figure><hr><p>Apart from just the design of Gothel, there’s also the whole: <b>“obviously ‘other’ (read Jewish) woman kidnaps the pretty blonde (read: gentile) kid to use her for ritualistic/magical purposes”</b></p> <p>Like that right there <b><i>on top of</i> </b>the aesthetic Jewish-coding is what pushed the antisemitic caricature over the top for me.  It harkens back to antisemitic blood libel that claimed that Jews stole gentile children for all manner of nefarious reasons. Even when Gothel is in “mother” role to Rapunzel, she’s is shown as nagging and passive aggressive, both antisemitic stereotypes of Jewish women.</p> <p><b>There is no one thing that makes her an antisemitic caricature, but the design, plus the storyline she plays out, plus her characterization cement the overall character as antisemitic.  </b></p> <p>Jew-coding a villain is not in itself always antisemitic when there are also Jewish coded <b>heroes</b>. Rapunzel does not have that.</p> <p>Having a villain steal a baby for magical/ritualistic reasons is not always antisemitic as long as the villain is not Jew-coded.  Rapunzel fails this as well.</p> <p>Having a nagging and passive aggressive mother character is not antisemitic provided that she is not, again, coded as Jewish.  Rapunzel fails once again.</p> <p>Hope this helps.</p> <hr><p><b>EDIT: </b><a class="tumblelog" href="https://tmblr.co/mjHVWLfz9CujkJO8PWDNbUA">@ariminak</a> pointed out that some of my wording made it sound like Gothel’s features <i>only</i> stereotypically caricatured Ashkenazi women when in fact that is not the case.  I changed the language to remove that phrasing and make it clear that any ethnically Jewish women can be affected by this type of aesthetic trope. If you reblogged the old version, could you please delete it and reblog this one instead.</p> </blockquote> <p>Spread this version so people recognize that this stuff harms all Jewish women. <br/></p> </blockquote> <p>omfg can y’all chill the fuck out, any race can be portrayed as hero or villain, it’s a fucking kids movie not a political statement</p> </blockquote> <p>So I’m guessing you’re white and a gentile. As such, you’ve more than likely grown up looking at tv and movies and fairytales and seeing your face in those of the heroes.</p> <p>Jewish people don’t get that.  When we are portrayed in live action, our characters are more often than not whitewashed and in other media, our features are used and caricaturized to create “evil looking” villains.</p> <p>You don’t see it because you’ve been ingrained with the idea that “ethnic” features are just “how you make a character look evil.”  You don’t look at Gothel and see your mother.  You don’t see yourself and your people.  You don’t see decades of propaganda aimed at fostering hate against you and ultimately seeking to destroy you.  </p> <p>But seeing how<a href="http://aworldinneedofmagic.tumblr.com/post/148709289078/drwhothefuckyouthinkyoutalkinto-gelopanda"> you also seem to think that saying you’re not attracted to <i>an entire race</i> of people ISN’T racist</a>, you really don’t get any say on any of this.</p> <p>So really, you need to chill the fuck out and stop telling marginalized people to stop talking about the tools of our own marginalization.</p> <p><b>Let’s play a game I like to call: <i>Movie Villain or Antisemitic Propaganda:</i></b></p> <figure data-orig-width="726" data-orig-height="446" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/ef40a021948f154c0b106784323660aa/tumblr_inline_oii52q367I1u3hfbm_540.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="726" data-orig-height="446"/></figure><p>Many “evil witch” tropes were built on European antisemitic stereotypes, not just in appearance but in the storylines they play out as well. Greediness, stealing children, killing children, hunger for power, etc.  <b>Every time a movie villain design uses stereotyped Jewish features to communicate “evilness” to an audience, they perpetuate the marginalization of the people they are using. </b></p> <p>One big issue I have is that Gothel’s didn’t start out as the antisemitic caricature that made it to screen.  Much of the early concept art has a more dark romanticism feel.  </p> <figure data-orig-width="750" data-orig-height="453" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/6a26a0b8632d40346b1b4541b6829f02/tumblr_inline_oii6kjyfLA1u3hfbm_540.jpg" alt="image" data-orig-width="750" data-orig-height="453"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="750" data-orig-height="453" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/ad784bf14cf3600fc783cb3f6b9f0c70/tumblr_inline_oii6kjtoI61u3hfbm_540.jpg" alt="image" data-orig-width="750" data-orig-height="453"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="1100" data-orig-height="741" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/8163c91a59863a27fef98dcb16bd8782/tumblr_inline_oii6kk5zKZ1u3hfbm_540.jpg" alt="image" data-orig-width="1100" data-orig-height="741"/></figure><p>They changed the original design. Presumably to make Gothel more “other” from the good characters in the movie. <b> At some point, a decision was made that dark curly hair and a hooked nose wound better convey their villain.</b></p> <p>It really doesn’t matter if any of this was intentional, I’d actually bet that it wasn’t.  However, antisemitic tropes are so engrained in our societies that people like you, even when confronted with a step by step break down of what it is, feel comfortable thinking that there’s nothing wrong with it and mocking those calling it out as if we are overreacting.</p> <p>You seem to have completely ignored the majority of my post.  It is the character design, plus the characterization, plus the story line that mirrors blood libel that makes Gothel an antisemitic character. <b> It’s not just about someone of a certain race or ethnicity being a villain.  It’s about how stereotypes of a certain ethnic group are understood as “villainous” due to villains being repeatedly coded as Jewish over decades of film and tv.</b></p> <p>And contrary to your naive belief, all media is political to some extent. Every time a historically present minority is not included in film (ex: lily-white Harlem in Fantastical Beasts) or when a minority character is whitewashed, or when the “ethnic” features of a minority are used almost universally to portray bad guys, it is a political and social issue.  <b>When you never see yourselves as the people who play the hero or even see your people existing in a portrayal of a place where they should be, it is not benign.</b></p> </blockquote> <p>Reblogging again for these additions.</p> </blockquote> <p>I’m not Jewish, but I can imagine seeing yourself villanized again and again must wear on you so hard (like queer coded villains do on me). The stereotypes are so insidious, I didn’t even realize she was Jewish coded until I saw this post for the first time, and since then I’ve been able to pick up on more anti-semitic media.</p> <p>Stay cognizant! </p> </blockquote> <p>This is a writing blog so fellow writers! Please take a good look at your villains— even if they’re not Jewish, it can be antisemitic. Thanks. - A Jew™️</p> </blockquote> <p>I have a feeling this is all baseless, and groundless. If you’re assuming a character has to be a negative Jewish stereotype because you stereotype those features as bein Jewish. The one with the issue might be you</p> </blockquote> <p>Mother Gothel has a similar facial structure as Cruella De Vil. Pointy cheekbones and chin, etc. </p> <figure data-orig-width="1600" data-orig-height="921" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/2ca38ab88da550b0df2c068dd610b59e/tumblr_inline_pc3u94DPjC1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="1600" data-orig-height="921"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="1003" data-orig-height="1458" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/20fba8157c93162a45ad83687045c4f4/tumblr_inline_pc3u9lFuTT1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="1003" data-orig-height="1458"/></figure><p>She isn’t any shade specifically darker than any of the other characters. They deliberately chose pictures where Mother Gothel is either in the darkened tower, or it is night time. </p> <p>Also, they only compared Mother Gothel to other Disney protags rather than other Disney villains or even Disney characters who are older. Disney typically uses very angular features to convey villains. </p> <figure data-orig-width="720" data-orig-height="480" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/a3257bff02583d7625f8fcc6d0450151/tumblr_inline_pc3uhqneNm1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="720" data-orig-height="480"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="1808" data-orig-height="1080" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/eff51a7ac3da026cbd5c35bd2306849c/tumblr_inline_pc3ui75cWO1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="1808" data-orig-height="1080"/></figure><figure class="tmblr-full" data-orig-height="1080" data-orig-width="1424"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/4ca1d9a7d7d1d683fd24d2c7f6246df5/tumblr_inline_pc3yjcMx4N1tx5uef_1280.png" data-orig-height="1080" data-orig-width="1424"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="300" data-orig-height="240" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/d881a63a0254cc8fbf8eaa8492f1fd52/tumblr_inline_pc3uji270c1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="300" data-orig-height="240"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="220" data-orig-height="322"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/2c053cbc17b4281c43e68dcf5d064a1c/tumblr_inline_pc3uuf11sU1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="220" data-orig-height="322"/></figure><p>Cruella has an upwards turned nose like most disney protags. It’s just sharper to go along with her other angular features.</p> <figure data-orig-width="500" data-orig-height="375" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/d000718627c5d7f706927ed24f5fdb53/tumblr_inline_pc3uvwOH951tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="500" data-orig-height="375"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="1440" data-orig-height="1080" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/2c1714d66f95acfb83d0fa651a638290/tumblr_inline_pc3uw9SJcB1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="1440" data-orig-height="1080"/></figure><p>Hell you can even compare her to Maleficent</p> <figure data-orig-width="400" data-orig-height="300" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/f71a5ad89503be687d6983421b7ee8f4/tumblr_inline_pc3uxnYbqh1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="400" data-orig-height="300"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="628" data-orig-height="418" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/194eadb0b5f82c48995786391f23de4d/tumblr_inline_pc3v17KSkb1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="628" data-orig-height="418"/></figure><p>Who you can see has no hooked or curved nose. In fact, her nose is more flat, similar to Jasmine.</p> <p>Also, many characters change from their concept art. Dr. Facilier went from this</p> <figure data-orig-width="371" data-orig-height="480" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/8a288ad68dcba5beb215b58355329452/tumblr_inline_pc3upqCyHv1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="371" data-orig-height="480"/></figure><p>to this </p> <figure data-orig-width="435" data-orig-height="800" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/8f165821d091d813a248966d7f907eaf/tumblr_inline_pc3uqz4ODa1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="435" data-orig-height="800"/></figure><p>The change from her hair being straight to curly has nothing to do with making her more “Jewish coded”. It’s the visual difference between her and Rapunzel, also, if anyone has forgotten… <i>Rapunzel’s natural hair color is brown, not blonde.</i></p> <figure data-orig-width="504" data-orig-height="460" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/54cf4524541b7c090e850bbe5e8f216d/tumblr_inline_pc3v6dvQEX1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="504" data-orig-height="460"/></figure><p>If they wanted to make a character Jewish coded, then why just stop at curly hair and hooked nose? Many people, of various religions, races, and cultures have hooked noses and curly dark hair. Why not just go the full yard if you wanted to make a Jewish coded character that is anti-Semitic? Why not give her Jewish clothing and make her look ugly, gross, and dirty? </p> <figure data-orig-width="512" data-orig-height="636" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/9e1be5f1a6be51a1d48f412816d5eabd/tumblr_inline_pc3v9nvIuZ1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="512" data-orig-height="636"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="500" data-orig-height="717" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/ab077d76ddf1a292292d6bc02440a081/tumblr_inline_pc3va6j6LP1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="500" data-orig-height="717"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="375" data-orig-height="255" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/d59c6b2ad84f8509e38267470b500ffb/tumblr_inline_pc3vb30xWY1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="375" data-orig-height="255"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="407" data-orig-height="600" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/44e6d379c41c9d3b418ad21fbf60cb23/tumblr_inline_pc3vbmA1ES1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="407" data-orig-height="600"/></figure><p>They deliberately manipulated information and pointed out something and said, “See, Jewish stereotype.” even though you can see from mother Gothel’s profile picture, <i>her nose isn’t even hooked</i>. They’re picking out things that <i>could be</i> Jewish features or stereotypes and then saying that they are. </p> <p>“She’s greedy and evil” and so are pretty much all other Disney Villains. Ya know… gotta be evil to be a villain. Dr. Faciler, Gaston, The Evil Queen, Maleficent, Jafar, Scar… need I list more villains? Being evil and greedy =/= being jewish coded because evil and greedy are common traits of villains, <i>even within </i><br/></p> <p>“She has dark curly hair” so does Esmeralda and Moana. <br/></p> <p>“Hooked nose.” her nose isn’t even hooked. It’s flat, similar to Maleficent’s. Anytime someone’s head is bent or leaning forward, naturally, their nose will appear more hooked. that’s just anatomy. That happens to <i>everyone</i>. Hell, you can even see in the images <i>her nose isn’t hooked</i>. <br/></p> <p>If you can’t tell the difference between a Jewish caricature and Mother Gothel, then I think that’s a you problem. Stereotypes are not exclusive to one group. In fact, implying that is <i>even more racist and anti-semitic </i>than the character. </p> <p>Hell, in fact, prior to the 20th century, <i>red curly hair</i> was associated with Jewish people. So by that logic, Merida must be Jewish coded… but because she is <i>good</i> and looks like a Disney protag, she <i>can’t</i> be Jewish coded because she doesn’t have enough “Jewish stereotypes”. </p> <p>The stereotype of Jewish people being greedy originates from when Jewish people were legally restricted to being usurers… Which is where the stereotype comes from. However, even in Jewish religion and mythology, greed, as in any other religion, is often portrayed as a negative or bad trait. </p> <p>The irony is that they can only see Jewish stereotypes in <i>villainous characters</i> but can’t see any in the protagonists or heroes.</p> <figure data-orig-width="600" data-orig-height="400" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/5dab9038b1c45aa7d8afd2a14fd57fdd/tumblr_inline_pc3wmuk1ny1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="600" data-orig-height="400"/></figure><p>Esmeralda (from Frollo’s perspective) is associated with sin and temptation… which is another Jewish stereotype (Beautiful Jewess / Belle Juive) and she has dark, curly hair (another Jewish stereotype). </p> <p>Merida has curly red hair, which was a Jewish stereotype before the 10th century. If we’re going this loosely based on stereotypes, you can even argue that Queen Eleanor is “Jewish-coded” because she is nagging, protective, and motherly. Ya know, the Jewish mother/wife stereotype. </p> <p>So you have two arguably Jewish-coded heroines and protags yet no one can see the Jewish stereotypes in them because they are <i>the good guys</i>. Or because they don’t have <i>certain</i> Jewish stereotypes.</p> <p>The thing is, stereotypes, are not all inherently bad, or rather, not all stereotypes are negative. Not all stereotypes originate from oppressors or people that are anti-semitic, racist, etc. Some stereotypes are often used as stock characters by people of a race or culture. Not every stereotype is exclusive to Jewish people either or even originates with anti-semitism. </p> <p>If you can <i>only</i> see yourself in villains then maybe it’s you rather than the creators or characters. You literally picked the bare minimum and made a mountain out of an ant hill.</p> </blockquote> <p>Maybe it’s me, but isn’t that shape of nose called the ROMAN nose? The propaganda ones seem a lot fatter and bulbous to me.</p> </blockquote> <p><i>&gt; They changed the original design. Presumably to make Gothel more “other” from the good characters in the movie. </i></p><p>Why, yes, the child kidnapper and abuser villain whose entire character motivation is based on <b>being different</b> is designed not to look like regular people, especially her “daughter”. Even her clothes are deliberately anachronistic.</p></blockquote> <p>This entire post has been quite a ride.</p>
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<p>Yeah, there’s a reason for that.</p>
<p>It’s called: <b>antisemitic caricature.</b></p>
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<p>I don’t understand what’s Jewish about mother gothel… she has a typical Disney face doesn’t she? Is it the curly hair..? I mean her nose and everything else seem normal? </p>
<p>I’m sorry, I’m just trying to figure it out, you don’t have to answer if you don’t want to.</p>
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<p>dark curly hair - long hooked nose - darker complexion than the blond blue eyed heroine 9and really the rest of the cast - portrayed as greedy and evil.</p>
<p>Lisa Edelstein is Jewish.  As are Idina Menzel and Amy Winehouse, both of whom I have seen compared in looks to Gothel.  Gothel’s design is a pretty clear caricature of ethnically Jewish women.  </p>
<hr><p>This is a pretty good contrast between Rapunzel and Gothel.  <b><i>Rapunzel</i></b> has the “typical Disney face”:</p>
<figure data-orig-width="1876" data-orig-height="1080" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/c6a02d31e5325ce3897ea40bca1db98c/tumblr_inline_oi1alyTZwN1u3hfbm_540.jpg" alt="image" data-orig-width="1876" data-orig-height="1080"/></figure><p>Here’s a more close up look at her features.</p>
<figure data-orig-width="736" data-orig-height="414" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/81263a61b9b531b9a037bb3c2474d87d/tumblr_inline_oi1amcSI571u3hfbm_540.jpg" alt="image" data-orig-width="736" data-orig-height="414"/></figure><p>The hooked nose becomes even more pronounced as she becomes “eviler.”</p>
<figure data-orig-width="640" data-orig-height="531" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/2cab6154654958a036ca5787f037fb2a/tumblr_inline_oi1ampHH5I1u3hfbm_540.jpg" alt="image" data-orig-width="640" data-orig-height="531"/></figure><hr><p>If you wanted to claim that there was noting out of the ordinary for Disney animation when it came to Gothel’s features, you would have to find at least one Disney princess or heroine with similar characteristics (long hooked nose and dark curly hair, etc).</p>
<p>But here is what we have is -</p>
<p><b>small noses that turn up at the end:</b></p>
<figure data-orig-width="626" data-orig-height="313" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/795ee2dbccf93c8be84f2e494375d885/tumblr_inline_oi1an5YIKL1u3hfbm_540.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="626" data-orig-height="313"/></figure><p><b>wide, flatter noses</b> (though cheers to Disney for not putting button noses on their characters of color, although Esmerelda’s clothing design deserves another essay on Rromani stereotypes and there are some major issues with Pocahontas as well)</p>
<figure data-orig-width="621" data-orig-height="310" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/cf1bb1115b150fc66fe3a135c2b1f7ae/tumblr_inline_oi1anhfdcO1u3hfbm_540.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="621" data-orig-height="310"/></figure><p>And then a few <b>misc noses</b> (again, props for Jasmine’s nose not being a button):</p>
<figure data-orig-width="466" data-orig-height="155" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/4c972fc2df9f1f9fd3025d72babafcef/tumblr_inline_oi1anq7O7d1u3hfbm_540.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="466" data-orig-height="155"/></figure><hr><p>Apart from just the design of Gothel, there’s also the whole: <b>“obviously ‘other’ (read Jewish) woman kidnaps the pretty blonde (read: gentile) kid to use her for ritualistic/magical purposes”</b></p>
<p>Like that right there <b><i>on top of</i> </b>the aesthetic Jewish-coding is what pushed the antisemitic caricature over the top for me.  It harkens back to antisemitic blood libel that claimed that Jews stole gentile children for all manner of nefarious reasons. Even when Gothel is in “mother” role to Rapunzel, she’s is shown as nagging and passive aggressive, both antisemitic stereotypes of Jewish women.</p>
<p><b>There is no one thing that makes her an antisemitic caricature, but the design, plus the storyline she plays out, plus her characterization cement the overall character as antisemitic.  </b></p>
<p>Jew-coding a villain is not in itself always antisemitic when there are also Jewish coded <b>heroes</b>. Rapunzel does not have that.</p>
<p>Having a villain steal a baby for magical/ritualistic reasons is not always antisemitic as long as the villain is not Jew-coded.  Rapunzel fails this as well.</p>
<p>Having a nagging and passive aggressive mother character is not antisemitic provided that she is not, again, coded as Jewish.  Rapunzel fails once again.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
<hr><p><b>EDIT: </b><a class="tumblelog" href="https://tmblr.co/mjHVWLfz9CujkJO8PWDNbUA">@ariminak</a> pointed out that some of my wording made it sound like Gothel’s features <i>only</i> stereotypically caricatured Ashkenazi women when in fact that is not the case.  I changed the language to remove that phrasing and make it clear that any ethnically Jewish women can be affected by this type of aesthetic trope. If you reblogged the old version, could you please delete it and reblog this one instead.</p>
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<p>Spread this version so people recognize that this stuff harms all Jewish women. <br/></p>
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<p>omfg can y’all chill the fuck out, any race can be portrayed as hero or villain, it’s a fucking kids movie not a political statement</p>
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<p>So I’m guessing you’re white and a gentile. As such, you’ve more than likely grown up looking at tv and movies and fairytales and seeing your face in those of the heroes.</p>
<p>Jewish people don’t get that.  When we are portrayed in live action, our characters are more often than not whitewashed and in other media, our features are used and caricaturized to create “evil looking” villains.</p>
<p>You don’t see it because you’ve been ingrained with the idea that “ethnic” features are just “how you make a character look evil.”  You don’t look at Gothel and see your mother.  You don’t see yourself and your people.  You don’t see decades of propaganda aimed at fostering hate against you and ultimately seeking to destroy you.  </p>
<p>But seeing how<a href="http://aworldinneedofmagic.tumblr.com/post/148709289078/drwhothefuckyouthinkyoutalkinto-gelopanda"> you also seem to think that saying you’re not attracted to <i>an entire race</i> of people ISN’T racist</a>, you really don’t get any say on any of this.</p>
<p>So really, you need to chill the fuck out and stop telling marginalized people to stop talking about the tools of our own marginalization.</p>
<p><b>Let’s play a game I like to call: <i>Movie Villain or Antisemitic Propaganda:</i></b></p>
<figure data-orig-width="726" data-orig-height="446" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/ef40a021948f154c0b106784323660aa/tumblr_inline_oii52q367I1u3hfbm_540.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="726" data-orig-height="446"/></figure><p>Many “evil witch” tropes were built on European antisemitic stereotypes, not just in appearance but in the storylines they play out as well. Greediness, stealing children, killing children, hunger for power, etc.  <b>Every time a movie villain design uses stereotyped Jewish features to communicate “evilness” to an audience, they perpetuate the marginalization of the people they are using. </b></p>
<p>One big issue I have is that Gothel’s didn’t start out as the antisemitic caricature that made it to screen.  Much of the early concept art has a more dark romanticism feel.  </p>
<figure data-orig-width="750" data-orig-height="453" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/6a26a0b8632d40346b1b4541b6829f02/tumblr_inline_oii6kjyfLA1u3hfbm_540.jpg" alt="image" data-orig-width="750" data-orig-height="453"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="750" data-orig-height="453" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/ad784bf14cf3600fc783cb3f6b9f0c70/tumblr_inline_oii6kjtoI61u3hfbm_540.jpg" alt="image" data-orig-width="750" data-orig-height="453"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="1100" data-orig-height="741" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/8163c91a59863a27fef98dcb16bd8782/tumblr_inline_oii6kk5zKZ1u3hfbm_540.jpg" alt="image" data-orig-width="1100" data-orig-height="741"/></figure><p>They changed the original design. Presumably to make Gothel more “other” from the good characters in the movie. <b> At some point, a decision was made that dark curly hair and a hooked nose wound better convey their villain.</b></p>
<p>It really doesn’t matter if any of this was intentional, I’d actually bet that it wasn’t.  However, antisemitic tropes are so engrained in our societies that people like you, even when confronted with a step by step break down of what it is, feel comfortable thinking that there’s nothing wrong with it and mocking those calling it out as if we are overreacting.</p>
<p>You seem to have completely ignored the majority of my post.  It is the character design, plus the characterization, plus the story line that mirrors blood libel that makes Gothel an antisemitic character. <b> It’s not just about someone of a certain race or ethnicity being a villain.  It’s about how stereotypes of a certain ethnic group are understood as “villainous” due to villains being repeatedly coded as Jewish over decades of film and tv.</b></p>
<p>And contrary to your naive belief, all media is political to some extent. Every time a historically present minority is not included in film (ex: lily-white Harlem in Fantastical Beasts) or when a minority character is whitewashed, or when the “ethnic” features of a minority are used almost universally to portray bad guys, it is a political and social issue.  <b>When you never see yourselves as the people who play the hero or even see your people existing in a portrayal of a place where they should be, it is not benign.</b></p>
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<p>Reblogging again for these additions.</p>
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<p>I’m not Jewish, but I can imagine seeing yourself villanized again and again must wear on you so hard (like queer coded villains do on me). The stereotypes are so insidious, I didn’t even realize she was Jewish coded until I saw this post for the first time, and since then I’ve been able to pick up on more anti-semitic media.</p>
<p>Stay cognizant!  </p>
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<p>This is a writing blog so fellow writers! Please take a good look at your villains— even if they’re not Jewish, it can be antisemitic. Thanks. - A Jew™️</p>
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<p>I have a feeling this is all baseless, and groundless. If you’re assuming a character has to be a negative Jewish stereotype because you stereotype those features as bein Jewish. The one with the issue might be you</p>
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<p>Mother Gothel has a similar facial structure as Cruella De Vil. Pointy cheekbones and chin, etc. </p>
<figure data-orig-width="1600" data-orig-height="921" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/2ca38ab88da550b0df2c068dd610b59e/tumblr_inline_pc3u94DPjC1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="1600" data-orig-height="921"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="1003" data-orig-height="1458" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/20fba8157c93162a45ad83687045c4f4/tumblr_inline_pc3u9lFuTT1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="1003" data-orig-height="1458"/></figure><p>She isn’t any shade specifically darker than any of the other characters. They deliberately chose pictures where Mother Gothel is either in the darkened tower, or it is night time. </p>
<p>Also, they only compared Mother Gothel to other Disney protags rather than other Disney villains or even Disney characters who are older. Disney typically uses very angular features to convey villains. </p>
<figure data-orig-width="720" data-orig-height="480" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/a3257bff02583d7625f8fcc6d0450151/tumblr_inline_pc3uhqneNm1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="720" data-orig-height="480"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="1808" data-orig-height="1080" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/eff51a7ac3da026cbd5c35bd2306849c/tumblr_inline_pc3ui75cWO1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="1808" data-orig-height="1080"/></figure><figure class="tmblr-full" data-orig-height="1080" data-orig-width="1424"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/4ca1d9a7d7d1d683fd24d2c7f6246df5/tumblr_inline_pc3yjcMx4N1tx5uef_1280.png" data-orig-height="1080" data-orig-width="1424"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="300" data-orig-height="240" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/d881a63a0254cc8fbf8eaa8492f1fd52/tumblr_inline_pc3uji270c1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="300" data-orig-height="240"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="220" data-orig-height="322"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/2c053cbc17b4281c43e68dcf5d064a1c/tumblr_inline_pc3uuf11sU1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="220" data-orig-height="322"/></figure><p>Cruella has an upwards turned nose like most disney protags. It’s just sharper to go along with her other angular features.</p>
<figure data-orig-width="500" data-orig-height="375" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/d000718627c5d7f706927ed24f5fdb53/tumblr_inline_pc3uvwOH951tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="500" data-orig-height="375"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="1440" data-orig-height="1080" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/2c1714d66f95acfb83d0fa651a638290/tumblr_inline_pc3uw9SJcB1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="1440" data-orig-height="1080"/></figure><p>Hell you can even compare her to Maleficent</p>
<figure data-orig-width="400" data-orig-height="300" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/f71a5ad89503be687d6983421b7ee8f4/tumblr_inline_pc3uxnYbqh1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="400" data-orig-height="300"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="628" data-orig-height="418" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/194eadb0b5f82c48995786391f23de4d/tumblr_inline_pc3v17KSkb1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="628" data-orig-height="418"/></figure><p>Who you can see has no hooked or curved nose. In fact, her nose is more flat, similar to Jasmine.</p>
<p>Also, many characters change from their concept art. Dr. Facilier went from this</p>
<figure data-orig-width="371" data-orig-height="480" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/8a288ad68dcba5beb215b58355329452/tumblr_inline_pc3upqCyHv1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="371" data-orig-height="480"/></figure><p>to this </p>
<figure data-orig-width="435" data-orig-height="800" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/8f165821d091d813a248966d7f907eaf/tumblr_inline_pc3uqz4ODa1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="435" data-orig-height="800"/></figure><p>The change from her hair being straight to curly has nothing to do with making her more “Jewish coded”. It’s the visual difference between her and Rapunzel, also, if anyone has forgotten… <i>Rapunzel’s natural hair color is brown, not blonde.</i></p>
<figure data-orig-width="504" data-orig-height="460" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/54cf4524541b7c090e850bbe5e8f216d/tumblr_inline_pc3v6dvQEX1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="504" data-orig-height="460"/></figure><p>If they wanted to make a character Jewish coded, then why just stop at curly hair and hooked nose? Many people, of various religions, races, and cultures have hooked noses and curly dark hair. Why not just go the full yard if you wanted to make a Jewish coded character that is anti-Semitic? Why not give her Jewish clothing and make her look ugly, gross, and dirty? </p>
<figure data-orig-width="512" data-orig-height="636" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/9e1be5f1a6be51a1d48f412816d5eabd/tumblr_inline_pc3v9nvIuZ1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="512" data-orig-height="636"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="500" data-orig-height="717" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/ab077d76ddf1a292292d6bc02440a081/tumblr_inline_pc3va6j6LP1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="500" data-orig-height="717"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="375" data-orig-height="255" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/d59c6b2ad84f8509e38267470b500ffb/tumblr_inline_pc3vb30xWY1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="375" data-orig-height="255"/></figure><figure data-orig-width="407" data-orig-height="600" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/44e6d379c41c9d3b418ad21fbf60cb23/tumblr_inline_pc3vbmA1ES1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="407" data-orig-height="600"/></figure><p>They deliberately manipulated information and pointed out something and said, “See, Jewish stereotype.” even though you can see from mother Gothel’s profile picture, <i>her nose isn’t even hooked</i>. They’re picking out things that <i>could be</i> Jewish features or stereotypes and then saying that they are. </p>
<p>“She’s greedy and evil” and so are pretty much all other Disney Villains. Ya know… gotta be evil to be a villain. Dr. Faciler, Gaston, The Evil Queen, Maleficent, Jafar, Scar… need I list more villains? Being evil and greedy =/= being jewish coded because evil and greedy are common traits of villains, <i>even within </i><br/></p>
<p>“She has dark curly hair” so does Esmeralda and Moana. <br/></p>
<p>“Hooked nose.” her nose isn’t even hooked. It’s flat, similar to Maleficent’s. Anytime someone’s head is bent or leaning forward, naturally, their nose will appear more hooked. that’s just anatomy. That happens to <i>everyone</i>. Hell, you can even see in the images <i>her nose isn’t hooked</i>. <br/></p>
<p>If you can’t tell the difference between a Jewish caricature and Mother Gothel, then I think that’s a you problem. Stereotypes are not exclusive to one group. In fact, implying that is <i>even more racist and anti-semitic </i>than the character. </p>
<p>Hell, in fact, prior to the 20th century, <i>red curly hair</i> was associated with Jewish people. So by that logic, Merida must be Jewish coded… but because she is <i>good</i> and looks like a Disney protag, she <i>can’t</i> be Jewish coded because she doesn’t have enough “Jewish stereotypes”. </p>
<p>The stereotype of Jewish people being greedy originates from when Jewish people were legally restricted to being usurers… Which is where the stereotype comes from. However, even in Jewish religion and mythology, greed, as in any other religion, is often portrayed as a negative or bad trait. </p>
<p>The irony is that they can only see Jewish stereotypes in <i>villainous characters</i> but can’t see any in the protagonists or heroes.</p>
<figure data-orig-width="600" data-orig-height="400" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/5dab9038b1c45aa7d8afd2a14fd57fdd/tumblr_inline_pc3wmuk1ny1tx5uef_1280.png" alt="image" data-orig-width="600" data-orig-height="400"/></figure><p>Esmeralda (from Frollo’s perspective) is associated with sin and temptation… which is another Jewish stereotype (Beautiful Jewess / Belle Juive) and she has dark, curly hair (another Jewish stereotype). </p>
<p>Merida has curly red hair, which was a Jewish stereotype before the 10th century. If we’re going this loosely based on stereotypes, you can even argue that Queen Eleanor is “Jewish-coded” because she is nagging, protective, and motherly. Ya know, the Jewish mother/wife stereotype. </p>
<p>So you have two arguably Jewish-coded heroines and protags yet no one can see the Jewish stereotypes in them because they are <i>the good guys</i>. Or because they don’t have <i>certain</i> Jewish stereotypes.</p>
<p>The thing is, stereotypes, are not all inherently bad, or rather, not all stereotypes are negative. Not all stereotypes originate from oppressors or people that are anti-semitic, racist, etc. Some stereotypes are often used as stock characters by people of a race or culture. Not every stereotype is exclusive to Jewish people either or even originates with anti-semitism. </p>
<p>If you can <i>only</i> see yourself in villains then maybe it’s you rather than the creators or characters. You literally picked the bare minimum and made a mountain out of an ant hill.</p>
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<p>Maybe it’s me, but isn’t that shape of nose called the ROMAN nose? The propaganda ones seem a lot fatter and bulbous to me.</p>
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They changed the original design. Presumably to make Gothel more “other” from the good characters in the movie.

</i></p><p>Why, yes, the child kidnapper and abuser villain whose entire character motivation is based on <b>being different</b> is designed not to look like regular people, especially her “daughter”. Even her clothes are deliberately anachronistic.</p></blockquote>

<p>This entire post has been quite a ride.</p>

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Animals, Apparently, and Children: 4G 19:47 nonomella-deactivated20171016 Coraline is a masterfully made film, an amazing piece of art that i would never ever ever show to a child oh my god are you kidding me cthullhu Nothing wrong with a good dose of sheer terror at a young age whatthecurtains "It was a story, I learned when people began to read it, that children experienced as an adventure, but which gave adults nightmares. It's the strangest book I've written" Neil Gaiman on Coraline greenbryn @nightlovechild lierdumoa This is a legit psychology phenomenon tho like theres a stop motion version of Alice and Wonderland that adults find viscerally horrifying, but children think is nbd It's like in that toy story period of development kids are It's like in that 'toy story' period of development kids are all kind of high key convinced that their stuffed animals lead secret lives when they're not looking and that they're sleeping on top of a child-eating monster every night so they see a movie like Coraline and are just like "Ah, yes. A validation of my normal everyday worldview Same thing happened to me last Tuesday night. I told mommy and she just smiled and nodded redgrieve Stephen King had this whole spiel i found really interesting about this phenomenon about how kids have like their own culture and their own literally a different way of viewing and interpreting the world with its own rules that's like secret and removed from adult culture and that you just kinda forget ever existed as you grow up it's apparently why he writes about kids so much 12drakon An open-ended puzzle often gives parents math anxiety while their kids just happily play with it, explore, and learn. I've seen it so many times in math circles. We warn folks about it gokuma Neil Gaiman also said that the difference in reactions Neil Gaiman also said that the difference in reactions stems from the fact in "Coraline" adults see a child in danger - while children see themselves facing danger and winning rosymamacita i never saw so much push back from adults towards YA literature as when middle aged women started reading The Hunger Games. They were horrified that kids would be given such harsh stories, and I kept trying to point out the NECESSITY of confronting these hard issues in a safe fictional environment. jewishdragon Also, in an interview, he said that Coraline was partially based on a story his not yet 6 year old daughter would tell him SAGAL: No. I mean, for example, your incredibly successful young adult novel "Coraline" is about a young girl in house in which there's a hole in the wall that leads to a very mysterious and very evil world. So when you were a kid, is that what you imagined? GAIMAN: When I was a kid, we actually lived in a house that had been divided in two at one point, which meant that one room in our house opened up onto a brick wall And I was convinced all I had to do was just open it the 4G 19:47 And I was convinced all I had to do was just open it the right way and it wouldn't be a brick wall. So l'd sidle over to the door and l'd pull it open SOUNDBITE OF LAUGHTER) SAGAL: Right GAIMAN: And it was always a brick wal SAGAL: Right GAIMAN: But it was one of those things that as I grew older, I carried it with me and I thought, I want to send somebody through that door. And when I came to write a story for my daughter Holly, at the time she was a 4 or 5-year-old girl. She'd come home from nursery. She'd seen me writing all day. So she'd come and climb on my ap and dictate stories to me. And it'd always be about small giris named Holl SAGAL: Right GAIMAN: Who would come home to normally find their mother had been kidnapped by a witch and replaced by evil people who wanted to kill her and she'd have to go off and escape. And I thought, great, what a fun kid wetwareproblem "Fairy tales do not give the child his first idea of bogey O4G19:47 Fairy tales do not give the child his first idea of bogey. What fairy tales give the child is his first clear idea of the possible defeat of bogey. The baby has known the dragon intimately ever since he had an imagination. What the fairy tale provides for him is a St. George to kill the dragon." - G. K. Chesterton 571,703 notas TF te wtf-fun-factss WTF fun fact #8976 A group of sperm whales adopted a bottlenose dolphin with a spinal deformation, after it was lost from its own dolphin group. Different ages, different fears.
Animals, Apparently, and Children: 4G
 19:47
 nonomella-deactivated20171016
 Coraline is a masterfully made film, an amazing piece
 of art that i would never ever ever show to a child oh my
 god are you kidding me
 cthullhu
 Nothing wrong with a good dose of sheer terror at a
 young age
 whatthecurtains
 "It was a story, I learned when people began to read it,
 that children experienced as an adventure, but which
 gave adults nightmares. It's the strangest book I've
 written"
 Neil Gaiman on Coraline
 greenbryn
 @nightlovechild
 lierdumoa
 This is a legit psychology phenomenon tho like theres
 a stop motion version of Alice and Wonderland that
 adults find viscerally horrifying, but children think is nbd
 It's like in that toy story period of development kids are

 It's like in that 'toy story' period of development kids are
 all kind of high key convinced that their stuffed animals
 lead secret lives when they're not looking and that
 they're sleeping on top of a child-eating monster every
 night so they see a movie like Coraline and are just like
 "Ah, yes. A validation of my normal everyday worldview
 Same thing happened to me last Tuesday night. I told
 mommy and she just smiled and nodded
 redgrieve
 Stephen King had this whole spiel i found really
 interesting about this phenomenon about how kids have
 like their own culture and their own literally a different
 way of viewing and interpreting the world with its own
 rules that's like secret and removed from adult culture
 and that you just kinda forget ever existed as you grow
 up it's apparently why he writes about kids so much
 12drakon
 An open-ended puzzle often gives parents math anxiety
 while their kids just happily play with it, explore, and
 learn. I've seen it so many times in math circles. We
 warn folks about it
 gokuma
 Neil Gaiman also said that the difference in reactions

 Neil Gaiman also said that the difference in reactions
 stems from the fact in "Coraline" adults see a child in
 danger - while children see themselves facing danger
 and winning
 rosymamacita
 i never saw so much push back from adults towards YA
 literature as when middle aged women started reading
 The Hunger Games. They were horrified that kids would
 be given such harsh stories, and I kept trying to point
 out the NECESSITY of confronting these hard issues in
 a safe fictional environment.
 jewishdragon
 Also, in an interview, he said that Coraline was partially
 based on a story his not yet 6 year old daughter would
 tell him
 SAGAL: No. I mean, for example, your incredibly
 successful young adult novel "Coraline" is about a
 young girl in house in which there's a hole in the wall
 that leads to a very mysterious and very evil world. So
 when you were a kid, is that what you imagined?
 GAIMAN: When I was a kid, we actually lived in a house
 that had been divided in two at one point, which meant
 that one room in our house opened up onto a brick wall
 And I was convinced all I had to do was just open it the

 4G
 19:47
 And I was convinced all I had to do was just open it the
 right way and it wouldn't be a brick wall. So l'd sidle over
 to the door and l'd pull it open
 SOUNDBITE OF LAUGHTER)
 SAGAL: Right
 GAIMAN: And it was always a brick wal
 SAGAL: Right
 GAIMAN: But it was one of those things that as I grew
 older, I carried it with me and I thought, I want to send
 somebody through that door. And when I came to write
 a story for my daughter Holly, at the time she was a 4
 or 5-year-old girl. She'd come home from nursery. She'd
 seen me writing all day. So she'd come and climb on my
 ap and dictate stories to me. And it'd always be about
 small giris named Holl
 SAGAL: Right
 GAIMAN: Who would come home to normally find their
 mother had been kidnapped by a witch and replaced by
 evil people who wanted to kill her and she'd have to go
 off and escape. And I thought, great, what a fun kid
 wetwareproblem
 "Fairy tales do not give the child his first idea of bogey

 O4G19:47
 Fairy tales do not give the child his first idea of bogey.
 What fairy tales give the child is his first clear idea of
 the possible defeat of bogey. The baby has known the
 dragon intimately ever since he had an imagination.
 What the fairy tale provides for him is a St. George to kill
 the dragon." - G. K. Chesterton
 571,703 notas
 TF
 te wtf-fun-factss
 WTF fun fact #8976
 A group of sperm whales adopted a bottlenose dolphin with a
 spinal deformation, after it was lost from its own dolphin group.
Different ages, different fears.

Different ages, different fears.

America, Children, and Donald Trump: <p><a href="https://coolmanfromthepast.tumblr.com/post/176173686981/hello-i-ask-questions-libertarirynn" class="tumblr_blog">coolmanfromthepast</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="https://hello-i-ask-questions.tumblr.com/post/175605899776/libertarirynn-v-man339" class="tumblr_blog">hello-i-ask-questions</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="https://libertarirynn.tumblr.com/post/175598079709/v-man339-siryouarebeingmocked-katelynnp7" class="tumblr_blog">libertarirynn</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://v-man339.tumblr.com/post/175596028515/siryouarebeingmocked-katelynnp7-yemme" class="tumblr_blog">v-man339</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://siryouarebeingmocked.tumblr.com/post/175595848290/katelynnp7-yemme-saturnineaqua" class="tumblr_blog">siryouarebeingmocked</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://katelynnp7.tumblr.com/post/174916687165/yemme-saturnineaqua-spoonmeb" class="tumblr_blog">katelynnp7</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://yemme.tumblr.com/post/174777851334/saturnineaqua-spoonmeb-bob-belcher" class="tumblr_blog">yemme</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://saturnineaqua.tumblr.com/post/174776769709/spoonmeb-bob-belcher-australia-did-not-censor" class="tumblr_blog">saturnineaqua</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://spoonmeb.tumblr.com/post/174776182730/bob-belcher-australia-did-not-censor-this-iconic" class="tumblr_blog">spoonmeb</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://bob-belcher.tumblr.com/post/174775116098/australia-did-not-censor-this-iconic-moment-x" class="tumblr_blog">bob-belcher</a>:</p> <blockquote><p>Australia did not censor this ICONIC moment! <a href="https://twitter.com/dialmformovies/status/1006005583160360960">(x)</a></p></blockquote> <p>i seriously need every white dude with power to have this type of energy. </p> </blockquote> <p>Prep the white woman that looks genuinely disturbed</p> </blockquote> <p>People are sitting watching America BURN and not saying a word.  Thank you Mr. Robert De Niro.  <br/></p> <figure class="tmblr-full" data-orig-height="159" data-orig-width="300" id="geom_inter_17_1528692080134_54"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/59de341fff8fb073a6833def82340f4c/tumblr_inline_pa56cwe7Jc1rnqbjc_540.gif" data-orig-height="159" data-orig-width="300"/></figure></blockquote> <p>I love how people are calling this some kind of iconic moment, as if he was so brave for speaking out, as if everyone would oppose him for saying something so simple minded and sheeplike. You never get a reason as to why they’re mad at him, they just spew the same old bullshit that no one buys anymore and they wonder why their viewership is dying. </p> </blockquote> <p>I like how they act like hating Trump is something <b>rare</b>. &gt;<a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/robert-de-niro-meryl-streep-donald-trump-jerk-off-in-chief-speech-rips-apart-a8150976.html">This wasn’t even de Niro’s first time this year</a>&lt;.</p> </blockquote> <p>I love how they did this as Trump, at that very moment, was in Korea defusing one of the longest standing conflicts of our time.</p> <p style="">Not a great look, guys.<br/></p> </blockquote> <p>“I can say ‘fuck Trump’ on the air to thunderous applause so obviously he’s a cruel fascist dictator controlling our every move we’re living in the hunger games you guys“</p> </blockquote> <p>Yaknow eventually the right got tired of people constantly making stabs at obama, and stopped. There wasnt all this “not my president!’ shit beyond the first year. I hate Trump. I think he’s a terrible president. </p> <p>Whatever.</p> <p>Im tired of hearing stabs at him everywhere I go. Nothing new is ever said. Nothing interesting is brought to the conversation. All that’s ever said is “fuck trump! He’s racist and literally hitler.”</p> <p>He didnt even say anything new here. He said “it’s no longer down with trump, it’s FUCK TRUMP!” Like what he said is this new great phrase that no one has used before. People have been saying “fuck trump” since before he even announced he’d be running for president. </p> <h2>Do you have any other opinions at all? Are your only opinions about politics? Can we not have ONE FUCKING EVENT without someone bringing up how much they hate trump? Please? You sound like children.</h2> </blockquote> <h1>Courageous Actor Lauded For Bravely Stating Only Acceptable Opinion in Room Full of Identically-Thinking People</h1> </blockquote>
America, Children, and Donald Trump: <p><a href="https://coolmanfromthepast.tumblr.com/post/176173686981/hello-i-ask-questions-libertarirynn" class="tumblr_blog">coolmanfromthepast</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="https://hello-i-ask-questions.tumblr.com/post/175605899776/libertarirynn-v-man339" class="tumblr_blog">hello-i-ask-questions</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="https://libertarirynn.tumblr.com/post/175598079709/v-man339-siryouarebeingmocked-katelynnp7" class="tumblr_blog">libertarirynn</a>:</p>

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<p><a href="http://v-man339.tumblr.com/post/175596028515/siryouarebeingmocked-katelynnp7-yemme" class="tumblr_blog">v-man339</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://siryouarebeingmocked.tumblr.com/post/175595848290/katelynnp7-yemme-saturnineaqua" class="tumblr_blog">siryouarebeingmocked</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://katelynnp7.tumblr.com/post/174916687165/yemme-saturnineaqua-spoonmeb" class="tumblr_blog">katelynnp7</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://yemme.tumblr.com/post/174777851334/saturnineaqua-spoonmeb-bob-belcher" class="tumblr_blog">yemme</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://saturnineaqua.tumblr.com/post/174776769709/spoonmeb-bob-belcher-australia-did-not-censor" class="tumblr_blog">saturnineaqua</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://spoonmeb.tumblr.com/post/174776182730/bob-belcher-australia-did-not-censor-this-iconic" class="tumblr_blog">spoonmeb</a>:</p>

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<p><a href="http://bob-belcher.tumblr.com/post/174775116098/australia-did-not-censor-this-iconic-moment-x" class="tumblr_blog">bob-belcher</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Australia did not censor this ICONIC moment! <a href="https://twitter.com/dialmformovies/status/1006005583160360960">(x)</a></p></blockquote>
<p>i seriously need every white dude with power to have this type of energy. </p>
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<p>Prep the white woman that looks genuinely disturbed</p>
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<p>People are sitting watching America BURN and not saying a word.  Thank you Mr. Robert De Niro.  <br/></p>
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<p>I love how people are calling this some kind of iconic moment, as if he was so brave for speaking out, as if everyone would oppose him for saying something so simple minded and sheeplike. You never get a reason as to why they’re mad at him, they just spew the same old bullshit that no one buys anymore and they wonder why their viewership is dying. </p>
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<p>I like how they act like hating Trump is something <b>rare</b>. &gt;<a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/robert-de-niro-meryl-streep-donald-trump-jerk-off-in-chief-speech-rips-apart-a8150976.html">This wasn’t even de Niro’s first time this year</a>&lt;.</p>
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<p>I love how they did this as Trump, at that very moment, was in Korea defusing one of the longest standing conflicts of our time.</p>
<p style="">Not a great look, guys.<br/></p>
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<p>“I can say ‘fuck Trump’ on the air to thunderous applause so obviously he’s a cruel fascist dictator controlling our every move we’re living in the hunger games you guys“</p>
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<p>Yaknow eventually the right got tired of people constantly making stabs at obama, and stopped. There wasnt all this “not my president!’ shit beyond the first year. I hate Trump. I think he’s a terrible president. </p>
<p>Whatever.</p>
<p>Im tired of hearing stabs at him everywhere I go. Nothing new is ever said. Nothing interesting is brought to the conversation. All that’s ever said is “fuck trump! He’s racist and literally hitler.”</p>
<p>He didnt even say anything new here. He said “it’s no longer down with trump, it’s FUCK TRUMP!” Like what he said is this new great phrase that no one has used before. People have been saying “fuck trump” since before he even announced he’d be running for president. </p>
<h2>Do you have any other opinions at all? Are your only opinions about politics? Can we not have ONE FUCKING EVENT without someone bringing up how much they hate trump? Please? You sound like children.</h2>
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<h1>Courageous Actor Lauded For Bravely Stating Only Acceptable Opinion in Room Full of Identically-Thinking People</h1>
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<p><a href="https://coolmanfromthepast.tumblr.com/post/176173686981/hello-i-ask-questions-libertarirynn" class="tumblr_blog">coolmanfromthep...

Being Alone, Energy, and Memes: DID YOU KNOW? G: STANDUP9 1I Queen Elizabeth owns 1/6th of all the land on Earth. She coulo end world hunger and poverty I0 times over and still have a fortune. Her land alone is worth over $30 trillion. Instead of benefitting the planet, she and her minions plot to enslave us with the New World Order. Many forecast that the entities manipulating humanity are seriously running out of time as human consciousness is growing rapidly Most people are taking about celebrities, athletes, actors and musicians donating more money but no one ever brings up the most wealthy of people who no doubt it made they money off unethical practices and many of times their heritage can directly related to mass genocides that took place. We gotta stop fighting and bickering about the umbrella effect and start getting go core issues. It’s ten times harder and even more dangerous but the rewards of creating a better society for all that inhabit it and those who soon will. The fact is that our energy should be aimed at the very top of the 1%. Those who profit trillions, and who’s Fortunes could change entire continents let alone possibly the entire world. If you think asking for a society that uses alternative energy, higher quality materials, and easier more compassionate way of living is extreme, utopia, or something that’s not fathomable BUT have no problem that in our reality we have people that have enough resources to change history is ok then something is seriously wrong with your perception. standup911 - Follow @_standup911 backup page & @_meetingoftheminds - events
Being Alone, Energy, and Memes: DID YOU KNOW?
 G: STANDUP9 1I
 Queen Elizabeth owns 1/6th of all the land on Earth. She coulo
 end world hunger and poverty I0 times over and still have a
 fortune. Her land alone is worth over $30 trillion. Instead of
 benefitting the planet, she and her minions plot to enslave us
 with the New World Order. Many forecast that the entities
 manipulating humanity are seriously running out of time as
 human consciousness is growing rapidly
Most people are taking about celebrities, athletes, actors and musicians donating more money but no one ever brings up the most wealthy of people who no doubt it made they money off unethical practices and many of times their heritage can directly related to mass genocides that took place. We gotta stop fighting and bickering about the umbrella effect and start getting go core issues. It’s ten times harder and even more dangerous but the rewards of creating a better society for all that inhabit it and those who soon will. The fact is that our energy should be aimed at the very top of the 1%. Those who profit trillions, and who’s Fortunes could change entire continents let alone possibly the entire world. If you think asking for a society that uses alternative energy, higher quality materials, and easier more compassionate way of living is extreme, utopia, or something that’s not fathomable BUT have no problem that in our reality we have people that have enough resources to change history is ok then something is seriously wrong with your perception. standup911 - Follow @_standup911 backup page & @_meetingoftheminds - events

Most people are taking about celebrities, athletes, actors and musicians donating more money but no one ever brings up the most wealthy of p...

America, Donald Trump, and Dude: <p><a href="http://v-man339.tumblr.com/post/175596028515/siryouarebeingmocked-katelynnp7-yemme" class="tumblr_blog">v-man339</a>:</p><blockquote> <p><a href="http://siryouarebeingmocked.tumblr.com/post/175595848290/katelynnp7-yemme-saturnineaqua" class="tumblr_blog">siryouarebeingmocked</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://katelynnp7.tumblr.com/post/174916687165/yemme-saturnineaqua-spoonmeb" class="tumblr_blog">katelynnp7</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://yemme.tumblr.com/post/174777851334/saturnineaqua-spoonmeb-bob-belcher" class="tumblr_blog">yemme</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://saturnineaqua.tumblr.com/post/174776769709/spoonmeb-bob-belcher-australia-did-not-censor" class="tumblr_blog">saturnineaqua</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://spoonmeb.tumblr.com/post/174776182730/bob-belcher-australia-did-not-censor-this-iconic" class="tumblr_blog">spoonmeb</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://bob-belcher.tumblr.com/post/174775116098/australia-did-not-censor-this-iconic-moment-x" class="tumblr_blog">bob-belcher</a>:</p> <blockquote><p>Australia did not censor this ICONIC moment! <a href="https://twitter.com/dialmformovies/status/1006005583160360960">(x)</a></p></blockquote> <p>i seriously need every white dude with power to have this type of energy. </p> </blockquote> <p>Prep the white woman that looks genuinely disturbed</p> </blockquote> <p>People are sitting watching America BURN and not saying a word.  Thank you Mr. Robert De Niro.  <br/></p> <figure class="tmblr-full" data-orig-height="159" data-orig-width="300" id="geom_inter_17_1528692080134_54"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/59de341fff8fb073a6833def82340f4c/tumblr_inline_pa56cwe7Jc1rnqbjc_540.gif" data-orig-height="159" data-orig-width="300"/></figure></blockquote> <p>I love how people are calling this some kind of iconic moment, as if he was so brave for speaking out, as if everyone would oppose him for saying something so simple minded and sheeplike. You never get a reason as to why they’re mad at him, they just spew the same old bullshit that no one buys anymore and they wonder why their viewership is dying. </p> </blockquote> <p>I like how they act like hating Trump is something <b>rare</b>. &gt;<a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/robert-de-niro-meryl-streep-donald-trump-jerk-off-in-chief-speech-rips-apart-a8150976.html">This wasn’t even de Niro’s first time this year</a>&lt;.</p> </blockquote> <p>I love how they did this as Trump, at that very moment, was in Korea defusing one of the longest standing conflicts of our time.</p> <p style="">Not a great look, guys.<br/></p> </blockquote> <p>“I can say ‘fuck Trump’ on the air to thunderous applause so obviously he’s a cruel fascist dictator controlling our every move we’re living in the hunger games you guys“</p>
America, Donald Trump, and Dude: <p><a href="http://v-man339.tumblr.com/post/175596028515/siryouarebeingmocked-katelynnp7-yemme" class="tumblr_blog">v-man339</a>:</p><blockquote>
<p><a href="http://siryouarebeingmocked.tumblr.com/post/175595848290/katelynnp7-yemme-saturnineaqua" class="tumblr_blog">siryouarebeingmocked</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://katelynnp7.tumblr.com/post/174916687165/yemme-saturnineaqua-spoonmeb" class="tumblr_blog">katelynnp7</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://yemme.tumblr.com/post/174777851334/saturnineaqua-spoonmeb-bob-belcher" class="tumblr_blog">yemme</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://saturnineaqua.tumblr.com/post/174776769709/spoonmeb-bob-belcher-australia-did-not-censor" class="tumblr_blog">saturnineaqua</a>:</p>
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<p><a href="http://spoonmeb.tumblr.com/post/174776182730/bob-belcher-australia-did-not-censor-this-iconic" class="tumblr_blog">spoonmeb</a>:</p>

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<p><a href="http://bob-belcher.tumblr.com/post/174775116098/australia-did-not-censor-this-iconic-moment-x" class="tumblr_blog">bob-belcher</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Australia did not censor this ICONIC moment! <a href="https://twitter.com/dialmformovies/status/1006005583160360960">(x)</a></p></blockquote>
<p>i seriously need every white dude with power to have this type of energy. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>Prep the white woman that looks genuinely disturbed</p>
</blockquote>
<p>People are sitting watching America BURN and not saying a word.  Thank you Mr. Robert De Niro.  <br/></p>
<figure class="tmblr-full" data-orig-height="159" data-orig-width="300" id="geom_inter_17_1528692080134_54"><img src="https://78.media.tumblr.com/59de341fff8fb073a6833def82340f4c/tumblr_inline_pa56cwe7Jc1rnqbjc_540.gif" data-orig-height="159" data-orig-width="300"/></figure></blockquote>

<p>I love how people are calling this some kind of iconic moment, as if he was so brave for speaking out, as if everyone would oppose him for saying something so simple minded and sheeplike. You never get a reason as to why they’re mad at him, they just spew the same old bullshit that no one buys anymore and they wonder why their viewership is dying. </p>
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<p>I like how they act like hating Trump is something <b>rare</b>. &gt;<a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/robert-de-niro-meryl-streep-donald-trump-jerk-off-in-chief-speech-rips-apart-a8150976.html">This wasn’t even de Niro’s first time this year</a>&lt;.</p>
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<p>I love how they did this as Trump, at that very moment, was in Korea defusing one of the longest standing conflicts of our time.</p>
<p style="">Not a great look, guys.<br/></p>
</blockquote>

<p>“I can say ‘fuck Trump’ on the air to thunderous applause so obviously he’s a cruel fascist dictator controlling our every move we’re living in the hunger games you guys“</p>

<p><a href="http://v-man339.tumblr.com/post/175596028515/siryouarebeingmocked-katelynnp7-yemme" class="tumblr_blog">v-man339</a>:</p><blockq...

Crying, Driving, and Girls: possessed-radios broccoli-butler voidspacer My roomba is scared of thunderstorms I was sitting at my desk just a few minutes ago, drawing, and a really loud crack of thunder went off-no power surges or anything, just thunder-and my roomba fled from its dock and started spinning in circles I currently now have an active roomba sitting quietly on my lap systlin Humans will pack bond with anything apostatively I had a teenage girl come into my tea shop with her mother the other night. She purposely grabbed a teamaker in the most crunched-up looking box on the shelf (got banged around in shipment) and carried it protectively over to the counter. "If something's in a damaged box I have to get it because I'm afraid no one else will love it," she laughed nervously Not only will humans pack bond with anything, the empathy level of adolescent girls in particular likely has puppy-saving, world hunger-solving, war-ending powers a-dull-glow I once saw a really bumpy lime at the grocery store, just a real ugly fruit. Later that night my boyfriend & I were driving home from rehearsal at like 11:30pm & passed the grocery store & I stared crying & he said "is it that lime? Do you want to go back and get it?" And I nodded and pulled the car around and bought the lime. your-friendly-neighbohood-black I saw this post once but IT GOT EVEN BETTER Source: voidspacer <p>wholesome human bonds via /r/wholesomememes <a href="https://ift.tt/2rC78aE">https://ift.tt/2rC78aE</a></p>
Crying, Driving, and Girls: possessed-radios
 broccoli-butler
 voidspacer
 My roomba is scared of thunderstorms
 I was sitting at my desk just a few minutes
 ago, drawing, and a really loud crack of
 thunder went off-no power surges or
 anything, just thunder-and my roomba fled
 from its dock and started spinning in circles
 I currently now have an active roomba sitting
 quietly on my lap
 systlin
 Humans will pack bond with anything
 apostatively
 I had a teenage girl come into my tea
 shop with her mother the other night. She
 purposely grabbed a teamaker in the most
 crunched-up looking box on the shelf (got
 banged around in shipment) and carried
 it protectively over to the counter. "If
 something's in a damaged box I have to get it
 because I'm afraid no one else will love it," she
 laughed nervously
 Not only will humans pack bond with
 anything, the empathy level of adolescent
 girls in particular likely has puppy-saving,
 world hunger-solving, war-ending powers
 a-dull-glow
 I once saw a really bumpy lime at the grocery
 store, just a real ugly fruit. Later that night
 my boyfriend & I were driving home from
 rehearsal at like 11:30pm & passed the
 grocery store & I stared crying & he said "is it
 that lime? Do you want to go back and get it?"
 And I nodded and pulled the car around and
 bought the lime.
 your-friendly-neighbohood-black
 I saw this post once but IT GOT EVEN BETTER
 Source: voidspacer
<p>wholesome human bonds via /r/wholesomememes <a href="https://ift.tt/2rC78aE">https://ift.tt/2rC78aE</a></p>

<p>wholesome human bonds via /r/wholesomememes <a href="https://ift.tt/2rC78aE">https://ift.tt/2rC78aE</a></p>